So being very new to this, there's a ton a variables. I'm living in Lyman and hunting there as well. I live on 12 acres of woods which is adjacent to a pond. I've also tried a land preserve which permits hunting. I can find fresh tracks and sometimes fresh scat. I haven't seen much in the way of scrapes or rubs but there are a few 4' tall pine trees that all had several gashes in them. I know for a fact a doe and fawn live on my property. I've been out 5 full days this season (work limits me). I'm wearing multiple layers on scent control camo. Combination of realtree and cabelas woodland. I'm using scent free body wash and scent free deodorant. I have rubber boots. I've taken 5yrs of ninjutsu, 15yrs of shorin-ryu and go-ju, and 4 yrs of brazilian jiujitsu so I can be quiet... (no I'm not hunting by hand). A squirrel crashed into my leg and a small bird landed on my head the other day. I prefer not to stand hunt... I can't sit in a tree for hours but am picking locations such as natural blinds and/or bluffs overlooking low lands with water sources or climbing down into the downwind side of marsh/swamp land. All of my opportunity for hunting has been within Big Woods as I don't have great access to crop fields or other private owned food plots. I'm dragging doe-urine behind me as I go for good measure (which has gotten the attention of several dogs walking along hiking trails at least) .... Is it normal to see a whole bunch of sign and know deer have been migrating through an area with regularity but just never see deer? Are there so few deer per acre within these wooded areas that you just never see them? Is it too densely wooded and I'm just not seeing them because they're 100 yrds away? Does it seem like I'm just picking poor locations? While I understand the advantages of tree stands (mainly reducing your scent and visibility while changing your shot angle) I would think that still hunting or using natural blinds and features of the land would be viable. Anyone wish to put in their 0.02 cents? Would be appreciated.