Lord of War - Anti-Gun Propaganda?

Discussion in 'Welcome Mat and Lounge' started by Ithaca37, Oct 12, 2005.

  1. "Cage hopes the film will make people, and governments, consider the kinds of people making money off their weaponry purchases. "Knowledge is key; it's power," Cage insisted. "You need to know what you're getting involved with."

    Thanks Mr. Cage, but I am less concerned about where the money from my last firearms purchase went, than I am concerned about the fact that my tax dollars have helped in the murder of over 50 million innocent children over the past 30 years.

    "Look, I'm not here as a political activist," he said. "I do believe in the right to bear arms, for my own personal reasons specifically. I do not want to ever have to use a gun, I think it's the kind of thing that needs to be screened carefully, they need to be selected — who gets one. That's what the movie's really dealing with, [that] there needs to be better control of the arms."

    I am pretty sure the 14th ammendment states that all rights listed in the constitution and its ammendments apply to all citizens of the USA....maybe Mr. Cage missed that lecture from US history. You support the right to bear arms? Restriction of that right is strictly forbidden Mr. Cage, so which is it? Do you support it or not?

    "We've got 300,000 child soldiers in the world. These are kids who haven't even kissed a person, and they're being asked to do the most profound act of their lives: to kill a person, and to possibly even die in the process. That is what the movie is trying to say, more about that than the actual right to bear arms."

    What the hell do some kids hacking people up in Africa have to do with my posession of any weapons? Let's be honest, most of these "child soldiers" are not really children, they stopped being children when they decided to engage in warfare. And what does kissing people have to do with manhood?

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  2. Here is some more:

    "The Wild West mentality is still strong in America," Niccol says, "especially if you go to a place like Texas, where it's alive and well, or maybe unwell: 'No one's taking away our guns.' In New Zealand, no one has a handgun, and they aren't saying, 'Gee, I wish I had one.' I hope the United States takes note that the murder rate is lower where gun availability is lower. It seems obvious to me."

    Wild West mentatility? By what derogatory catch phrase, what moniker, do you label those who defend their right to free speech, or their freedom of religion? The notion that murder rates are lower in nations with strict gun laws is asanine. While England has not yet reached the American level of murders, it has already surpassed the United States in rates of robbery and burglary. Moreover, in recent years the murder rate in England has been going up under still more severe gun control laws, while the murder rate in the United States has been going down as more and more states have allowed private citizens to carry concealed weapons -- and have begun locking up more criminals. Or look at Puapa New Guinea where the people are forbidden from possesing even pellet guns, their murder rate is more than twice that of the US.

    "He couldn't afford to destroy them because he had such a small budget, but he says, "In South Africa, we did cut some guns in half to stop them from getting into circulation"

    What a noble effort, what exactly did that accomplish? Those who want to kill will now just resort to those machetes they seem to love so much in Africa. Pat yourself on the back, you just damned someone to horrible death at the recieving end of a machete.

    "We begin the movie showing the life span of a bullet, from manufacture to entering the head of an African child," he says. "Nine out of 10 war victims die from a gun."

    How profound! And during the crusades, 10 out 10 soldiers who died in battle died from either blunt force trauma or lacerations.

    "Guns have come to be a symbol of evil, but that's confused things a little bit," he says. "Neither the gun itself nor the gun-holder is evil."

    Confused things a little bit? I was unaware that inanimate objects possessed the ability to commit atrocities on their own, maybe you could provide some research sata demonstrating how a firearm is able to consciously make a decision to execute its purpose? It is clear that in crimes committed with firearms, responsibilty rests solely with the "gun-holder".

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  3. kenton6

    kenton6 Administrator

    Oh, you missed the story about the Baretta that walked down the street randomly shooting innocent people?
  4. I just love how it is our fault that people can't seem to keep their hands off of other people and their property. And "child soldiers" give me a break. :D
  5. kenton6

    kenton6 Administrator

    OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!! A man who is an authority on ETHICS!
    What scares me is there are people like this that are in postitions of authority and in particular education.
    It's no wonder kids today are growing up with no respect of life and are killing each other.
    Ethics ------ BARRRFFFF!
    I would imagine if you delved into his background, we would find out what kind of an ethical man he is.
    What you think?
  6. You are right, it seems that most of the "authorities" on ethics have some the most unethical beliefs and also seem to have very large piles of skeletons in their closets.