Mandatory Guides for Aliens

This scorpion's tail is going to sting you in the pocket book.

NEWENGLANDCHARTERS said:

Its a great idea to require a Licence Guide for aliens hunting in Maine or in any State in the US for that matter.

Why limit this only to hunting. Most tenderfoots get lost in the woods while "Treking" thats hiking to you all. They dont even have to buy a fish & Game licence but get to use all the resources like helicopter rescue and tie up the Game wardens resources.

Lets make it Mandatory for hiring a licenced Maine Guide for any recreational activity that is not encapsulated by boundrys (Golf, Downhill Sking and Stock car racing excempt of course)

Activities such as Llhama Trecking, X country Skiing, Mountain Biking, Kayacking etc. will now require permits available by the day of course.


Illegal aliens: MUST Hire Master Maine Guides! of course we get to collect a bounty when we turn them in to I.N.S.

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Say what you mean! You mean CANADIAN hunters........not alien hunters. Doubt if many Dutch, Japanese, Chinese, Rusky hunters are driving to Maine to hunt this coming fall. One thing I like about Americans is their directness.......they usually say what they mean......what happened this time?

Chuckle away guys but there are some problems:

1) Laws like the alien guide law punish hotels, bars, restaurants and business establishments where foreign aliens like me would normally do business because the alien hunters will just move on to a more hospitable state that would love to have their money. You don't garner business by insulting people.

2) Guides in Maine will suffer loss of business that will be going to guides in other states who welcome the cash flow from Canadian hunters. I for one won't be hunting in Maine until the law is repealed and I'm one of the Canuck aliens that can afford a guide and I usually hire one as I did in 2007 (Oxbow Lodge).........but it'll be one in a state with more hospitable laws in 2008. Already have my deer and moose hunts booked in New Hampshire. And that's too bad because I love the State of Maine and all the wonderful people and would love to continue to do business in Maine but some short sighted people "got to" some short sighted legislators and screwed things up.

3) Punitive laws like the guide law that are based on discrimination make for bad feelings which will cause the affected Canadian hunters to petition their own Provincial legislatures for similar laws forbidding American alien hunters to hunt unless they are accompanied by Canadian guides and 2 wrongs definitely don't make a right in this kind of situation. It will just sour the whole North American hunting mix.........just because some Canuck phobic Maine lobbyists and the legislators that listened to their poison couldn't see the big picture.

Think you're going to gain where it counts at the cash till........Believe me.......Just the opposite will happen..........Expect a serious loss of business for Maine guides and other businesses that depend on the fall deer and moose hunts until the discriminatory and insulting alien (CANADIAN) guide law is repealed.

In case you haven't heard there's an economic recession on in the land of the Red, White & Blue. Those badly needed Canuck dollars won't be landing in Maine cash tills in the fall of 2008 thanks again to some short sighted and vindictive people.

Why limit this only to hunting. Most tenderfoots get lost in the woods while "Treking" thats hiking to you all. They dont even have to buy a fish & Game licence but get to use all the resources like helicopter rescue and tie up the Game wardens resources.

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I love this one. Have to admit you got me beat here................I'm definitely a city slicker used to hanging around URBAN areas like Resolute Bay, Frobisher, the Yukon & the Northwest Territories.

One important note here...... If any province of Canada or any country in the world requires US citizens to hire a guide we should in turn require them to have a guide here. The "reciprical privelege" should be the standard. The fact that Nova Scotia requires Mainer's to hire a guide....should mean that NS citizens should be required to hire one here. All exceptions should be allowed. Allow us to hunt freely in your country at the same license rates as your own? Not likely...we pay extra to be tourists. It works both ways in the real world.

Now if you are a Canadian hunter and you are insulted that you are treated as a foreign national.....wake up!!!! You are!!! Yes we rely on the crossborder trade. But most Canadians would have life very hard if they didn't shop in the USA. Yes we leave our borders open for economic gain.... and the borders run green with money moving both ways.

If we seem arrogant about our way of life... i am sorry. But this is "our" country and we know it. As far as the recession... better shop while you can. Shortly the economy will flip back and you'll lose at least 30% on the dollar again. But you'll still cross and shop.... because it's cheaper here even then. The flood of trade has never ceased here in Houlton. In fact the local walmart has set records in the state since it opened. Thanks to the constant stream of Canadians spending their paychecks here every weekend. Admittedly in recent months they have gotten more for their buck...but we still get the buck.

aroostookbasser said:

One important note here...... If any province of Canada or any country in the world requires US citizens to hire a guide we should in turn require them to have a guide here. The "reciprical privelege" should be the standard. The fact that Nova Scotia requires Mainer's to hire a guide....should mean that NS citizens should be required to hire one here. All exceptions should be allowed. Allow us to hunt freely in your country at the same license rates as your own? Not likely...we pay extra to be tourists. It works both ways in the real world.

Now if you are a Canadian hunter and you are insulted that you are treated as a foreign national.....wake up!!!! You are!!! Yes we rely on the crossborder trade. But most Canadians would have life very hard if they didn't shop in the USA. Yes we leave our borders open for economic gain.... and the borders run green with money moving both ways.

If we seem arrogant about our way of life... i am sorry. But this is "our" country and we know it. As far as the recession... better shop while you can. Shortly the economy will flip back and you'll lose at least 30% on the dollar again. But you'll still cross and shop.... because it's cheaper here even then. The flood of trade has never ceased here in Houlton. In fact the local walmart has set records in the state since it opened. Thanks to the constant stream of Canadians spending their paychecks here every weekend. Admittedly in recent months they have gotten more for their buck...but we still get the buck.

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All is not lost yet. My long deceased mum was born & raised in Houghton, Michigan, though I was born in Canada. I'll take a year off from Maine hunting while :gitrdone: I apply to the US State Department for a US passport. It'll take a while getting all the documentation together and wading through all the paperwork and well as kicking out a couple of grand for a immigration/citizenship lawyer.:gitrdone:

I don't know if the new Maine guide law has a residency requirement. I don't think it does. I think a non resident US citizen qualifies.

With the US passport in my pocket I should be good to go. Don't count old Pricedo out yet aroostookbasser.........:roflmao: Soon to be appearing on a tree stand near you........guideless.:roflmao:

Besides, if I decided to emigrate to the US as a US citizen I'd represent a remarkable improvement to the genetic pool.........chuckle.........chuckle.

We can sit around the campfire singing "This Land is Our Land"......You'll have to lead........I'm a bit tone deaf from all the bull moose calling up here in the fall.

The USA overtaking Canada's economy again with crude oil fast heading to $200 a barrel and above and 100 years worth of oil in the Alberta tar sands...........I don't think so.