It gets on my nerves that there is so much talk about antler size. I grew up in maine where a true tophy, to me anyway and the people that I hunt with is body size. Sure, I've shot some decent racked deer that would score well should I have chosen to have them scored but what do you hunt for? You can't eat the horns. A few years back I shot a 3 pointer the weighed around 175 if I remember correctly. To me, even though it was just a 3 pointer, that was a fine deer. Kansas is the same way, everone wants the huge racks to have scored and maybe have their name in a record book. I'd get a lot more satisfaction out of tracking a doe even and taking her than a 170 inch buck from a fenced in sanctuary anyday! Just my two cents on the matter!!