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If the crossbow is now legal.......should it be used during the bow season or the firearm season?
Should Crossbows be used during bow season?
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That question has caused many battles amongst bow hunters and crossbow enthusiests...
My opinion is that it should be allowed during archery ...muzzleloader ... and rifle season.
It is a joke that NH and Maine allow the use only during the firearm season...
Is it a firearm?
I consider it a primative weapon as is a bow or muzzleloader.
Even thought the new modernized devices aren't the primative weapons they use to be.
We need to stick together and get more people involved in the outdoors...
Hunting is losing ground to video games and other interests for our kids.
Stand by ,and in another generation, there might be no hunting.
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One of my best friends is a certified instructor with the MDIFW and assures me that any bowman worth his arrow can outshoot a crossbow any day of the week. If that is true....and a crossbow is less accurate and effective than a modern compound as MDIFW has tested and found them to be..... why are we debating this.... let the crossbows join the hunt during bow season and get more hunters in the field. Honestly...do you think the ladies can match the men in draw length and pulls. Why not let our slighter hunters share in the bow bounty and help control these out of whack populations.
LOL.... that's a different angle!!
Usually crossbow enthusiests are called lazy and everything else.
It's the first time I've heard someone say they weren't accurate... that's funny too.
I agree it would allow for more women and kids to get involved.... wouldn't that be nice.
Usually crossbow enthusiests are called lazy and everything else.
It's the first time I've heard someone say they weren't accurate... that's funny too.
I agree it would allow for more women and kids to get involved.... wouldn't that be nice.
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No, no, no. Firearm season only please.
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Sorry..a crossbow belongs with rifles like muzzleloaders belong with bows. In recent years great effort has been made to get black powder the same rights in the expanded zones as bows. Sorry, get real or get lost. Bows are a stick and a string. Crossbow..stick and a string with a stock. A bow is a bow.. and a gun is a gun. The rest is BS and we all know it.
This elitest attitude about archery is like the flyguy telling the wormer he has no right to fish. Lets stick together....... or be divided for easier conquest. These divisions are childish and selfish !!!!
WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU INTRODUCED SOMEONE TO HUNTING ?????
Remember the tradition you save could be your own.
This elitest attitude about archery is like the flyguy telling the wormer he has no right to fish. Lets stick together....... or be divided for easier conquest. These divisions are childish and selfish !!!!
WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU INTRODUCED SOMEONE TO HUNTING ?????
Remember the tradition you save could be your own.
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AB, you made a point that concerns me with crossbows. To many people think they can just pick one up and go shoot like a ifle. I feel that the general attitude of would be xbow users is going to create enormous amounts of wounded deer. I have nothing against the bow. Its the general ideas that they are easier to use.
your point about woman and draw lenght and poundage has no merit here what so ever. The minimum poundage that Maine has set is more than adequete to kill a deer if they are capable shooters.
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your point about woman and draw lenght and poundage has no merit here what so ever. The minimum poundage that Maine has set is more than adequete to kill a deer if they are capable shooters.
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ok, you all have good points! a crossbow is a deadly weapon as is a rifle or a compound or a recurve!my personal opinion is that a crossbow is a little easier to execute the shot due to not having to draw on the animal at the moment of truth! lets make it a legal means of taking an animal in all the seasons. if we argue amongst ourselves we all lose. if we ban together we stand strong. remember opinions are like assholes we all have one! strings
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Yeah I guess I was a little forward in saying no no no but I guess they have a place somewhere. Bowhunting to me is on a different level than crossbow hunting. I know with technology advancing in bows they might even surpass the crossbow at some point. It just seems all the time and effort put into getting that animal can be in the same category as someone across the woods with 120lb draw weight and a scope pumping an arrow into something. Honestly I have only met one crossbow hunter in my life. Most states only allow disabled to hunt with a crossbow. Why? Because it's an advantage. And that's fine by me. I am not trying to keep anyone out of the field, I just think there is a time and a place and it's not during bow season.
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I'm not trying to argue or disagree only to clarify! You have said twice Whitetail Fever that xbows shouldn't be used during regular archery season. Is the reason you are giving because it gives hunters an advantage over regular bow hunters?
Or are there other reasons it should not be allowed?
I don't hunt with either, so I am far from an expert and in all honesty can't offer anything to the debate. This is why I am asking.
Or are there other reasons it should not be allowed?
I don't hunt with either, so I am far from an expert and in all honesty can't offer anything to the debate. This is why I am asking.
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The short increase in the effective range of a compound does not require it to be in a class by itself. Like it or not..it's a bow. Granted it's a 150 lb. puller not a 70lber like most of us shoot. But it's still a bow. My good friend Lou is a certified instructor with IFW and teaches bow courses. as part of his certification he had to take the "Crossbow Instructor" course. From his lips to my ears. He informed me that all of the crossbows tested ...some costing well over 800.00. All shot about as far and as accurately as the average compound bow.
Granted as stated previously..you don't have to cock it at the moment it's needed.. and you get to use your feet to do it. That does not make it a gun!!!!! It's still a bow!!!! If we are going to keep it as a legal arm in this state than it's proper place is with the bows not the guns. Yes there is an advantage in using it if you are less experienced. But considering what the state requires one to do to get the license. They should be quite knowledgeable nonetheless.
If the bow crowd is going to fracture over this, than next we will have the rifles pitted against the pistols and the shotguns taking potshots at all of us!!!!!!! United...or die.
Can the crud......... just go hunt!!!!!!
Granted as stated previously..you don't have to cock it at the moment it's needed.. and you get to use your feet to do it. That does not make it a gun!!!!! It's still a bow!!!! If we are going to keep it as a legal arm in this state than it's proper place is with the bows not the guns. Yes there is an advantage in using it if you are less experienced. But considering what the state requires one to do to get the license. They should be quite knowledgeable nonetheless.
If the bow crowd is going to fracture over this, than next we will have the rifles pitted against the pistols and the shotguns taking potshots at all of us!!!!!!! United...or die.
Can the crud......... just go hunt!!!!!!
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Now hang on just a minute AB! :-D First, let's clarify something, which I am still waiting on WF to do. Let's stick to just deer hunting for a moment. Is the only difference between hunting deer during archery season the difference between the bows? In other words, aren't there long bows, compound bows and now xbows? Are there other factors?
Do the xbows make noises that will disturb other "traditional" bowhunters or anything like that, or is this just a matter of choice of weapon. It does make a difference in my book. Do xbows hunters harvest too many deer away from longbows and compound bow hunters?
Now, in reference to what you said about fighting and guns.
It also appears AB that you are willing to stop the discussion of where xbows or any other weapon should be used during which season as long as everyone agrees with you.
Your point of debate and the issues you bring are all viable, yet you seem to insist that we accept your explanation, stop discussing the issue and move on.
Remember, you are the one who began this thread by asking the following question:
Do the xbows make noises that will disturb other "traditional" bowhunters or anything like that, or is this just a matter of choice of weapon. It does make a difference in my book. Do xbows hunters harvest too many deer away from longbows and compound bow hunters?
Now, in reference to what you said about fighting and guns.
This has been going of for some time now. There are constant wars over gun usages and many of those arguments are within the kind of gun itself. For instance black powder. There's several kinds of black powder weapons hunters are arguing over all the time now. Same with rifles versus shotguns. This is nothing new.
It also appears AB that you are willing to stop the discussion of where xbows or any other weapon should be used during which season as long as everyone agrees with you.
Your point of debate and the issues you bring are all viable, yet you seem to insist that we accept your explanation, stop discussing the issue and move on.
Remember, you are the one who began this thread by asking the following question:
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History repeats itself........ I love to get you going. How else can I get all of our lurkers fired up unless I tick'em off????
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Yep they do all have strings. And they do shoot arrows. So I am changing my perspective. I have shot one but a handful of times and it's not for me. But I guess they are for some. And by some I mean their are very few crossbow hunters. Will their be a lot more if xbows are allowed to hunt during archery season nationwide? Might become quite popular. Just getting tired of the I have this weapon I don't fit in mentality. Next it will be spears (seen that on video) and then slingshots. All weapons that have been around for centuries. So string and arrows. Archery season sounds like the spot for it. Now, where to put the sling shot? How about a atlatl? That thing is legal in a couple of states including Penn. This year it's a boomerang for me.
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I'ld love to take me a deer with nothing but my Buck knife!!!!
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It's now 2008 and we have survived our first crossbow season. Can anyone tell me why we aren't reclassifying it with the bows from here on. Put the elitest horse manure aside and get real. Each year we have a harder and harder time promoting the hunting tradition and attracting more hunters. Now with the crossbow we can include women and youth that could not shoot the regular bows for physical reasons. Who can now hunt with the xbow.
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Sound's Like Anouther Reason The Dam Idiot's In Augusta To Be Filling There Pocket's...(more Licencing And More Restriction's ) On The Book's...x-bow's Have Been Around For Hundred's Of Year's Let's Not Rock The Boat In Augusta....
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