These two guys just got back from a hunt in TX. They were pretty happy to say the least. The smaller buf (first one) was shot at 12 yards after the hunter was able to get in front of the herd and was hiding behind a cedar tree as the whole herd walked almost on top of him. He said it was very exciting but was also somewhat scarey being right in the middle of them because they are so dang aggressive. This was just a meat hunt but the bigger one (second one) weighed in at 1000 pounds and the smaller one weighed in at 700. Both were taken with smoke poles.