posted this on another forum. basically i think we are going after subday hunting the wrong way. the onlytime i have made any head way with some one against it was after i asked him how he would feel if he couldnt ride his sled on sunday. after all, since his excuse was hunting disturbs the peace of a sunday afternoon, i assured him that i make a hell of a lot less noise walking thru the woods with my bow than he does on his sled. take it further, many people who dont hunt just flat out say we dont NEED to hunt on sunday, we have 6 other days. well, you dont NEED to fish on sunday, you dont NEED to look at birds on sunday, you dont NEED to hike on sunday........i have gotten a little ways with folks that have never looked at that way b4. i am only one person but if we all tried that approach who knows, we cant do any worse than we are now.