HUH??
I haven't heard about this ingenious creative approach to funding and wildlife management. I'll have to look into this.
I haven't heard about this ingenious creative approach to funding and wildlife management. I'll have to look into this.
Would you buy a coyote scratch ticket?
Seems the boys in Augusta are funding wildlife with scratch tickets.
Would you support and purchase a scratch ticket that funds a bounty system on Coyotes?
Simple system......shoot 'yote take to tagging station...usually a convenience store. Tag 'yote..pull tooth for biologists and collect $10.00. They file claim form with state and get reimbursed through lottery agent.
Would you support and purchase a scratch ticket that funds a bounty system on Coyotes?
Simple system......shoot 'yote take to tagging station...usually a convenience store. Tag 'yote..pull tooth for biologists and collect $10.00. They file claim form with state and get reimbursed through lottery agent.
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Don't get confused....the state just sells tickets it says goes to wildlife......
My coyote bounty system not theirs.
My coyote bounty system not theirs.
THE questions is...would you support a bounty system on coyotes if the funding was integrated into it like through the lottery system.
Instead of hoping enogh people want to hunt and trap them.( $10.00 per kill, minus the teeth to keep people honest) Plus the fur value...$20.00+ for the time to hunt.
What do you think?
Instead of hoping enogh people want to hunt and trap them.( $10.00 per kill, minus the teeth to keep people honest) Plus the fur value...$20.00+ for the time to hunt.
What do you think?
Not sure to be honest. I might go for that. The fur ain't worth much anymore and if we need to devise a way to cut down on numbers, it might be worth a try.
Currently prime pelts from Maine are seeing close to if not over $20.00 per hide. A bounty of 10.00 per and the furs market value would gross about 30.00 per kill. Go hunting on a saturday and bag 5 Coyotes = 150.00 to defer gas and hunting costs.
okay......what's the deal...61 people come in and look over the posts and don't even bother to tell me off!!!!! What's this country coming to anyway?
:lol: :lol:
OK I guess I don't understand it. If it promotes hunting I am for it... :wink:
OK I guess I don't understand it. If it promotes hunting I am for it... :wink:
Does anybody have a better way to get more hunters to shoot 'yotes?
Like This !!!!!!!!!
http://images.google.com/imgres?img...es?q=coyotes&start=60&svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&sa=N
Like This !!!!!!!!!
http://images.google.com/imgres?img...es?q=coyotes&start=60&svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&sa=N
Wasn't there a bounty on them a long time ago? before my time. I remember my dad telling me of one on bears and another animal. I think any kind of incentive like that would get more people in to it. Once you get one on bait or calling its very addictive sport plus they would pay you for them - sounds like a deal to me. 
But the bleeding hearts in Augusta bowed to the narrow view and lifted the bounty. WE need to create an incentive.........or it will only get worse!!!!!
Most every outdoors man knows what a problem coyotes can be. I've never heard anyone downing anyone for killing coyotes. --Well, except for one warden and a biologist I know :roll:
This lotto for coyotes sounds like a good way to get the ball rolling. I never thought that the state should wast money on a bounty for coyote, but this would be a good start.
Sorry I didn't see this before.
This lotto for coyotes sounds like a good way to get the ball rolling. I never thought that the state should wast money on a bounty for coyote, but this would be a good start.
Sorry I didn't see this before.
I am reviving this thread to offer it back out to you......should we finance abounty by the lotto schemes Augusta prefers?
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NO!
You keep beating the drum, how many hours have you logged this winter?
How many coyotes have you trapped or hunted this season?
Once Augusta gets your money they don't ever want to give it up and you can bet it will be diverted.!
You keep beating the drum, how many hours have you logged this winter?
How many coyotes have you trapped or hunted this season?
Once Augusta gets your money they don't ever want to give it up and you can bet it will be diverted.!
Mr. Duggins.......
didn't your mother ever teach you to place nice with the other kids? Are you making this a personal matter?
I posed the question again to see if "we" could get fresh views... we know yours.
If we don't look for and find an answer up here in Aroostook County we are facing an even greater threat of deer loss than you do down there. Things may be fine down their in the Burbs... but up here in the real world we have a problem. All I wanted was another chance to hear from "everyone"... again.
To address the question about how many hours I have logged... and how many I have Killed this winter. I must be honest and admit I haven't been out this winter ..... mostly due to work constraints and career enhancements I am working on.
I will tell you this..... my insistance never faulters on this question....do we need a bounty on Coyotes.
From the fall of 1992 to the Spring of 1995 I was an ADC agent here in Aroostook County. Through an arrangement with a young Warden up here named Richter...my required sponsor. I hunted nuisance animals and charged farmers and land owners for my services. During that time I hunted at least 45 to 50 hours per week, part timing it. I also had a woodworking busines and travelled alot to shows and fairs. On average I killed 1 coyote for every 4 to 5 hours of field time...that was about 8 per week. I charged 20.00 per 'yote and the sold the hides for 15.00 to 20.00.
The money was the only real reason I did it then....... and I know that money would be the only reason for a "Professional" to take it up and actually make a difference. The casual hunter and hobby trapper isn't going to make a dent. Just read some of the other posts on this question from all of us.....
I am sorry we don't agree..... but isn't America Grande!!!!
I promise not to pee in your Wheaties if you stop peeing in mine!
didn't your mother ever teach you to place nice with the other kids? Are you making this a personal matter?
I posed the question again to see if "we" could get fresh views... we know yours.
If we don't look for and find an answer up here in Aroostook County we are facing an even greater threat of deer loss than you do down there. Things may be fine down their in the Burbs... but up here in the real world we have a problem. All I wanted was another chance to hear from "everyone"... again.
To address the question about how many hours I have logged... and how many I have Killed this winter. I must be honest and admit I haven't been out this winter ..... mostly due to work constraints and career enhancements I am working on.
I will tell you this..... my insistance never faulters on this question....do we need a bounty on Coyotes.
From the fall of 1992 to the Spring of 1995 I was an ADC agent here in Aroostook County. Through an arrangement with a young Warden up here named Richter...my required sponsor. I hunted nuisance animals and charged farmers and land owners for my services. During that time I hunted at least 45 to 50 hours per week, part timing it. I also had a woodworking busines and travelled alot to shows and fairs. On average I killed 1 coyote for every 4 to 5 hours of field time...that was about 8 per week. I charged 20.00 per 'yote and the sold the hides for 15.00 to 20.00.
The money was the only real reason I did it then....... and I know that money would be the only reason for a "Professional" to take it up and actually make a difference. The casual hunter and hobby trapper isn't going to make a dent. Just read some of the other posts on this question from all of us.....
I am sorry we don't agree..... but isn't America Grande!!!!
I promise not to pee in your Wheaties if you stop peeing in mine!
Nothing personal, just razzin' a county boy!
My comments were more about making a point than an attack on your motives. We all find the time or make the time to go deer hunting in the fall but what do we actually do to improve our hunting experience?
Somehow, between work, kids, TV, and social crap we just can't seem to motivate ourselves to get out the and doo something....ANYTHING!
Find a farmer with a wet spot he can't hay and ask him if you can adopt that portion for a food plot!
Plant a "garden" on your own land.
Get a group together and put on a contest.
Put a deer feeder within sight of your home and kill coyotes when they come in for the deer.
What I am trying to say is why should we depend on State government to do for us when we won't "DO" for ourselves?
It is said only 10% of the population so how can we expect the 90& (10% non-hunters) to pay to enhance OUR hunting?
For myself, if the so-called leaders of this state decide feeding deer is not legal, I'll just plant a surplus garden!
It is just my opinion that if we want something, WE should do something for ourselves, not ask the general population to make it happen.
My comments were more about making a point than an attack on your motives. We all find the time or make the time to go deer hunting in the fall but what do we actually do to improve our hunting experience?
Somehow, between work, kids, TV, and social crap we just can't seem to motivate ourselves to get out the and doo something....ANYTHING!
Find a farmer with a wet spot he can't hay and ask him if you can adopt that portion for a food plot!
Plant a "garden" on your own land.
Get a group together and put on a contest.
Put a deer feeder within sight of your home and kill coyotes when they come in for the deer.
What I am trying to say is why should we depend on State government to do for us when we won't "DO" for ourselves?
It is said only 10% of the population so how can we expect the 90& (10% non-hunters) to pay to enhance OUR hunting?
For myself, if the so-called leaders of this state decide feeding deer is not legal, I'll just plant a surplus garden!
It is just my opinion that if we want something, WE should do something for ourselves, not ask the general population to make it happen.
I'm just a big old Tom cat.....you pull my tail I'm gonna hiss, you do it twice you get the claws.
I agree we need to do all we can for ourselves.....but the state won't let me run IF&W !!!
Short of that we have to work inside the system to change all we can. Yes plant food plots/extra gardens........ and all else you can. The deer need the food.... and we need the deer. What we don't need is those useless coyotes.
Have you ever walked into a deer yard, like I DID IN 1979, and saw the snow red with blood and deer lying everywhere..... 8 in all. Only two were partially consumed.... and now my hate for them consumes me. Roger Lee and Gary London of Houlton were there with me....I was out riding snowsled with them.( I was dating Roger's daughter.) Those pictures we took, Roger took, hung on the wall of the Old Fogg hardware for ten years or better. A testament to the carnage.... We can't keep deer safe from them except to reduce their numbers or "eradicate" them.
If I am passionate about this issue it's because those images are etched into my brain....... and I love my North Maine home too much to allow them to destroy my hunting traditions.
I agree we need to do all we can for ourselves.....but the state won't let me run IF&W !!!
Short of that we have to work inside the system to change all we can. Yes plant food plots/extra gardens........ and all else you can. The deer need the food.... and we need the deer. What we don't need is those useless coyotes.
Have you ever walked into a deer yard, like I DID IN 1979, and saw the snow red with blood and deer lying everywhere..... 8 in all. Only two were partially consumed.... and now my hate for them consumes me. Roger Lee and Gary London of Houlton were there with me....I was out riding snowsled with them.( I was dating Roger's daughter.) Those pictures we took, Roger took, hung on the wall of the Old Fogg hardware for ten years or better. A testament to the carnage.... We can't keep deer safe from them except to reduce their numbers or "eradicate" them.
If I am passionate about this issue it's because those images are etched into my brain....... and I love my North Maine home too much to allow them to destroy my hunting traditions.
But AB, the good Lord made the coyote, (he made women & gave her a mouth, but we'll talk about that later!) that doesn't mean he messed up. Even without a biology degree I know there is a purpose for them just like the wolf and the mountain lion.
I have seen the "carnage" on leaves and on snow, year after year but I rarely see a sick or wounded deer. Coyotes are only one preditor on a deer heard but they are also the most visable.
Everything lives and dies in cycles and perhaps you (and some others) have noticed the downslope. Without extensive studies it would be difficult to know for sure.
But, your moose population is up so that could mean the habitat is better suited to them at this time.
The coyote aint the devil, just one piece of the equasion!
I have seen the "carnage" on leaves and on snow, year after year but I rarely see a sick or wounded deer. Coyotes are only one preditor on a deer heard but they are also the most visable.
Everything lives and dies in cycles and perhaps you (and some others) have noticed the downslope. Without extensive studies it would be difficult to know for sure.
But, your moose population is up so that could mean the habitat is better suited to them at this time.
The coyote aint the devil, just one piece of the equasion!
The coyote is a "non-trophy" predator. Predators are difficult to management because, as we all know, hunting and trapping are the most valuable tools fish and game uses to control wildlife populations.
The bottom line is, what value do they have. What we have created is our own problem. We now are at a point were wildlife, predators included, are not managed just for hunters, fishermen and trappers anymore - need I explain?
I agree with Jack, that "back in the day" coyotes wouldn't have been a problem and I'll leave it at that. Our snotty-nosed spoiled society turns to Government for everything - including toilet paper.
Perhaps Jack's, ideas are best as right now there are not many "legal" IFW approved methods to deal with an over abundance of yotes.
BTW, many people refuse to believe that predators kill just for the sport.
The bottom line is, what value do they have. What we have created is our own problem. We now are at a point were wildlife, predators included, are not managed just for hunters, fishermen and trappers anymore - need I explain?
I agree with Jack, that "back in the day" coyotes wouldn't have been a problem and I'll leave it at that. Our snotty-nosed spoiled society turns to Government for everything - including toilet paper.
Perhaps Jack's, ideas are best as right now there are not many "legal" IFW approved methods to deal with an over abundance of yotes.
BTW, many people refuse to believe that predators kill just for the sport.
A day out hunting with a chance to reimburse expenses. Sounds good to me.
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